Covid Vaccine unseen results....

Some interesting facts emerging about the "vaccine" of late.
Despite the sources and the attemps to defame them, the evidence is pretty damning!

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https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/5503-coronavirus-mega-thread/page/5250/#comments


Food for thought.....

Gee David you are a  gullible  old fool!  Get off ya arse and do some research before you post and then you wont like like an ignorant idiot!!!!!

David Icke  claims he is the son of God and that the world is run by reptiles and is a Holocaust denier!    

sciencebasedmedicine.org/steve-kirschs-mother-of-all-revelations-about-the-deadliness-of-covid-19-vaccines-goes-poof/
.technologyreview.com/2021/10/05/1036408/silicon-valley-millionaire-steve-kirsch-covid-vaccine-misinformation/
/2023/11/scicheck-covid-19-vaccines-save-lives-are-not-more-lethal-than-covid-19/
skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/the-misleading-claims-of-anti-vaccine-steve-kirsch-a-review/

Hard to understand what you're saying..." then you wont like like an ignorant idiot!!!!!"

Defaming the messengers does not make their facts untrue!
Posting links from parties with a vested intrest in denial is also pathetic.

Your automatic response of trying to degrade those who disagree with you, is a clear sign you are unable to process new thoughts, regardless of the information you are shown.
Your fluster and typos show you to be on the verge of senility(or in the early stages).....

Could be long Covid and time for your next booster??

PS, How do we know he isn't the son of God? You'd certainly pass for a lizard person!!

PPS, Better a son of god than like you Doug...A son of a bitch.

Anyone that quotes icke as a reputable source loses any credibility! The other guy is also a conspiracy theory nutter who misuses data! ALL peer reviewed scientific journals have rejected his misused vaccine data as well as ALL universities and epidemiologist. He is a database administrator, NOT a statistician, and has
NO relevant scientific or clinical knowledge of public health or epidemiology, but rather acted on all sorts of assumptions that spikes in daily death rates were “not natural” and “had to be man-made.

Testimony by Steve Kirsch on the alleged harms of vaccination relies on flawed, biased analyses
CLAIM
“All these vaccines are causing harm to our kids”; “The fully unvaccinated kids are always healthier”; “vaccines are causing chronic disease in America”
DETAILS
Factually inaccurate: Well-conducted studies show that childhood vaccination prevents potentially serious infections and isn’t associated with poorer health or a higher risk of chronic conditions. COVID-19 vaccines have also demonstrated their safety and efficacy against severe COVID-19, which helped prevent millions of deaths worldwide.
Inadequate support: The two studies that Kirsch cited in his testimony have significant methodological issues that led to the retraction of one of them. The other reference is a flawed, biased report conducted by anti-vaccine groups, which renders its findings unreliable.
KEY TAKE AWAY
Childhood vaccination represents a great advancement in public health that has helped to eliminate or reduce the risk of diseases that in the past killed and disabled more than two million children worldwide per year. A robust body of evidence shows that the vaccines that are currently in use, including COVID-19 vaccines, are safe for children and not associated with a higher risk of adverse health outcomes.
healthfeedback.org/claimreview/testimony-by-steve-kirsch-on-the-alleged-harms-of-vaccination-relies-on

Says the self proclaimed information provider extrodinaire?!
How can they possibly have long term effects on anyone?
And name one successful lawsuit against big pharma, that didn't have a fleet of doctors and medical reports, telling how safe and harmless it was. Despite the deaths and illness caused, they won't admit fault until they lose in court. Government much the same.

Did you expect the government to throw their hands in the air and admit they had nothing? And were doing nothing?
Haven't you noticed how all those in charge during Covid and the enforcement of claimed mandatory Vaccination, have resigned since the release of the longer term effects of vaccination?

You only read what you agree with, and repeat the opinions of others, especially when it comes to those you disagree with.

You don't use your own words because it make you.." LIKE LIKE AN IGNORANT IDIOT!!!!!"

So confidant you aren't being manipulated, yet stupid enough to get scammed using online dating.

Show me ANY peer reviewed studies that support what Steve Kirsch or the other idiot says about covid vaccines! Yes some people have died from covid vaccines but more that 15 million have died from covid and continue to die from it!An overwhelming body of evidence shows that the vaccines have saved tens of millions of lives. Its worth noting that Steve Kirsch still promotes the use of failed therapies for covid like ivermectin so has a vested interest in promoting the idea that covid vaccines are harmfull.

Nobody denies covid kills, as do many other things.It's the effectiveness vs long term unkown effects of the vaccine, (as well as the known) that are a concern.
Comparing covid vax with vaccinations for things like polio and german measles, (that had decades of research) is chalk and cheese.
I'd put the comparisun closer to the discovery of Xray and deaths caused by unseen effects, or the pros and cons of radiation therapy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_therapy


ps. Oh yes, underlining a statement doesn't make it fact.

Can you explain why Steve Kirsch has been fully vaccinated against covid! All adverse vaccine effects in all previous clinical trials show up within weeks or at best in a few months. if we had waited for any long term effects to show up before approving the vaccines many more people would have died from covid. Yes radiation therapy can and does cause some very serious side effects but the doses used in cancer therapy are very carefully calculated to reduce the chances of this happening. Unfortunately this means that the dose may be too low to completely sterilize the tumor. I worked in a lab where we were trying to develop radio protective agents so that higher xray doses could be used without any serious side effects and radio enhancing agents so that lower doses would be more effective an also agents that would selectively be taken up by the tumor and carry a radioactive tag like 125I with when it decayed would irradiate the tumor with short range electrons but not normal healthy tissue.

I guess you know they use to say the same thing about nicotine, and can probably still show you medical reports with positive effects.
I had my 3 jabs....Then I saw the light...no more for me or my kids. (once they're 18 it's up to them)

There is no way they can prove how many more would have died without the vaccine, (worldwide effort to make sure everyone got some) There are no real bulk unvaccinated populations.

While there is always an effort to highlight how many unvaccinated caught the desease. And when someone unvaccinated died.
I look forward to seeing what percentage of those unvaccinated died, (compared to entire unvaccinated populace who caught covid) against the vaccinated number, excluding those with known previous conditions in both cases.

"There is no way they can prove how many more would have died without the vaccine, (worldwide effort to make sure everyone got some) There are no real bulk unvaccinated populations."

In general  countries with lower vaccination rates had a higher mortality rates and hospital data shows that the death rate from covid (particularly the early strains like delta) was highest amongst he unvaccinated.So their is no doubt that  without vaccines and other measures the global death rate wold have been much  higher,something that almost all epidemiologists  agree on.

Firstly, Congratulations and credit for finally using your own handle/name.

A look at the lower vaccinated countries will also show a majority of third world or low income/population societies.
These places had third world and low income medical facilities in general, and death rates overall were higher than average.

Again Doug, not denying the vaccine had some positive effects. But just think they've been overstated, while at the same time, adverse results have been ignored or wrongly justified at short notice.

More than 1 million people have died of COVID-19 in the U.S.
A number of studies have shown nearly 319,000 of these COVID-19 deaths could have been averted if all adults in the USA had been vaccinated. A CDC study of more than 20 countries showed that that the covid death rate per 100,000 people( age standardized for people 12 years and older) was 1.71 for unvaccinated and .22 for vaccinated and .1 for boosted. So we can say with certainty that without vaccines the death toll globally would have been much higher.

They still can't give a vaccine efficency rate on the general population without clauses on the figures!! And an intrest in the output of vaccine, generally financial...
Let me ask you this Doug....

If it was Covid 1941 and Hitler and the Nazi allies were offering the vaccine.....
Would you still believe the hype and take your shots?!

Or would you ask a few more questions and look into it further?

Edit: Population of USA was around 331 million in 2021.... So what percentage is 1 million? Then look at what percentage of the planet caught Covid compared to deaths.

Then look at overall planetwide deathrates before during and since Covid...Just say'n

“Would you still believe the hype and take your shots?!”
I base my decisions on the best scientific medical evidence!
“Then look at planetwide deathrates before during and since Covid...Just say'n “
Covid is still killing people more than 300 a day in the usa for example and the evidence shows that getting covid increases your risk of premature death even if you fully recover. This
is the main reason for an increase in xs deaths combined with many more flu cases.

Death rate was higher 20 years ago ! way before covid. Because of our low population it's erratic at best.(6-7 per k..lol)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/579840/death-rate-in-australia/#:~:text=In%20total%2C%20the%20death%20rate,year%2C%20expressed%20per%201%2C000%20population.

When compared against others over the same span of time....I see no covid spikes!?
How do you justify that?
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/crude-death-rate-the-share-of-the-population-that-dies-each-year-gbd?tab=chart&time=earliest..latest&country=AFG~AUT~MNG~AUS~DEU~SDN

"I see no covid spikes!?"
ABS data for Australia shows clear covid(and flu) spikes.You see the same pattern for many other countries.

I'm sure you see wht they want you to see..lol
How many of those deaths were by accident but still recorded as covid due to some antigen signs?
Even though they were decapitated in a car accident. (extreme example of what occurs).

I can't help but wonder Doug.....

If you believe the stories about Jesus and his crucifixion.
Would you have been with the authoroties or against?!

I see you on the sidelines at the back shouting...crucify him!!
While wearing a long robe and fake beard like a woman...

Yuk...now I have to get that horrible picture out of my head..

"I'm sure you see wht they want you to see..lol
How many of those deaths were by accident but still recorded as covid due to some antigen signs?
Even though they were decapitated in a car accident. (extreme example of what occurs)."

One of he problems in trying to estimate xs deaths due to covid is that the true death toll according to a number of studies by WHO and others is grossly understated and could be at least 3x higher because in some countries eg India the cause of many deaths was not reported even when the death rate exploded during the pandemic peak.

So your excuse now is unreported deaths from Covid?!

Geez Doug. Dead is dead. But for it to be an excess death, wouldn't it drive up the national average of deaths, regardless of cause?!
90% of excess deaths would have happened anyway, covid just hastened the process. A little clinical but stats prove it true.

Average WORLD yearly death rates showed little change during Covid.

"So your excuse now is unreported deaths from Covid?!"
No not my excuse! But a number of very detailed studies have suggested this.India is a classic case!

Calling it a "classic case" would imply there have been many other pandemics to use as reference!?

One minute you claim abundant medical reports and studies prove your point..
The next breath you claim lack of reporting cases means the reports  aren't accurate?
Can't have it both ways. (though I've seen a picture of you that indicates you might.. )

In a number of countries the xs deaths increased dramatically during peaks of covid but the number of reported deaths due to covid did not show a similar increase. So why?

Earthquake, hurricane, flooding, landslides, heatwave, war.... take your pick there's been plenty.

Could you be overlooking other world catastrophies and disasters to suit your theory?

"Earthquake, hurricane, flooding, landslides, heatwave, war.... take your pick there's been plenty.
Could you be overlooking other world catastrophies and disasters to suit your theory?"

No none of above can account for the rise in xs deaths in more than 12 countries that corresponds to covid peaks. My "theory" as you describe is supported by some very detailed and careful studies such as in BMJ.

Covid-19: True global death toll from pandemic is almost 15 million, says WHO
Cite this as: BMJ 2022;377:o1144
bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1144

The global number of deaths caused by covid-19 has been severely under-reported, the World Health Organization has said. It estimates that 14.9 million direct and indirect deaths occurred from SARS-CoV-2 in 2020 and 2021—almost three times the 5.4 million reported by governments around the world.1
The undercount is the result of a lack of covid-19 testing and death certification, said William Msemburi, technical officer at WHO. Seventy countries do not produce cause of death certificates, he said, and even before the pandemic six in every 10 deaths went unreported.
The figures confirm the disproportionate global impact of covid-19. Of the excess deaths around the world, 68% are concentrated in just 10 countries—Brazil, Egypt, India, Indonesia, Mexico, Peru, Russia, South Africa, Turkey, and the US.
Middle income countries accounted for 81% of the excess deaths, while high income countries accounted for 15% and low income countries 4%. Men made up a larger proportion of deaths from covid-19 (57%) than women (43%).
The estimates of excess deaths were roughly in line with official tallies in the US, where WHO modelled 932 458 excess deaths, and in Brazil, where it modelled 681 267. But in India WHO’s models estimated 4 740 894 excess deaths, nearly triple the figure in government reports.